Prometheus 6

You know what?  Given the costs of living in NYC, they can HAVE Harlem.  Black working class folk should've left NYC a LONGGGG time ago.

Just as I said community control of the rebuilding of New Orleans would never happen, I say they will have Harlem.

I'm not sure what one has to do with the other  They already have Harlem.

One of my colleagues told me about this track I haven't heard yet.  "You can't have New York."  It's written SPECIFICALLY about black working class New Yorkers, who love NYC (like many other NYCers do) with all of their heart.  

But they can't have it.  They never could.

I read an article sometime ago about housing in NYC.  A white professional couple were whining over the fact that they were being priced out of the market.

With the loot they had, they could've bought a phat crib in the ATL, and COMMUTED to the NYC.  

I'm not sure what one has to do with the other

No one want to hear either statement. 

Black working class folk should've left NYC a LONGGGG time ago.

True. I suspect, however, that given the patterns of racial housing discrimination working class blacks would have only been allowed to migrate into older suburbs that whites were in the process of abandoning.

Oh...I'm saying something different.  I'm not saying "move to the suburbs."

I'm saying, "move to Baltimore."  "Move to Atlanta."  "Move to Charlotte."

Okay. Atlanta and Charlotte seem like reasonably decent choices. I'm not sure about "Charm City".

A Northern bias? To put it mildly. Aganist little Africa, Detroit. Hates Harlem. Holla!!!!!

I like Baltimore more than Atlanta.  A great deal more actually.  But also it's close enough that transplants can still get to NYC without much trouble.  It's what?  Maybe a 3 hour drive at most?  Housing is Baltimore is much more expensive than either Atlanta or Charlotte, but it is within reach.  Housing in NYC isn't within reach. 

Getting back to the suggestion  that moving to B-More or ATL maybe a more conducive or productive move for the working class of Harlem, according to recent reports these two cities are having their own particular issues with gentrification. It seems, because soooo many Blacks, who have the resources to 'gentrify' these decrepit neighborhoods, of those mentioned, are fleeing to the Burbs in ATL and B-More. Take for an example a piece in the Real Estate section Wash Post over 2 Saturdays ago, which detailed the move from DC to B-More of young professionals singled out the row houses in B-More and the value they now bring in square feet and economic worth. And there is the extreme concern over gentrification of  the Sweet Auburn Avenue area of ATL which is where the King Center is located. Its seems the 'complexion' of the neighborhood is rapidly changing from young professionals relocating there from the Burbs, meanwhile, our people are replacing them in the Burbs.I suspect that many inner cities will undergo revolutions in terms of the betterment offered by local public schools as more of these folks continue the gentrification trend in the Harlems of the USA. I mean, with monster mortgages of well over a million dollars, most of these new folks will not tolerate poor public schools as they exist now. That is, as a way of lessening their monthly financial outlays, inclusive of expensive private schools, they will demand a rearranging of resources to the gentrified neighborshood schools, from the burbs, where Negroes will have relocated in massive numbers.  The schools in the Burbs, like South Dekalb county, for example, will suffer. And the poor schools, they, the Blacks,  tried  to escape from, or were forced to depart from because the inner city had become too expensive because of gentrification, will now be prospering. Nice scheme, Huh?

Actually there is housing within reach in NYC if one has some energy, imagination and access to some capital. Neighborhoods are now  'changing ' in the South Bronx and there are bargins to be had. Changes are also ocuring in Brooklyn. In Queens. Moreover, there is now, it seems, a saturation of new housing units in apts/condos/ co-ops despite what the census data notes today, and there will be good buys here if the econony continues to go south. In know a few of the so called "gentrifiers who have bite off mortgages they can't chew, and they'll be bailing out soon. So the market will open up, in a good way, very shortly. Mark my words. There is, and will be, more deals to be had!

is right on the money. i know i missed the first run-up and was spared the worst of some shenanigans by some less than honest types here in crooklyn...still the number of units (at the current prices) greatly exceeds demand - and the prices preclude more speculators from jumping into the market. the chicago fed head just suggested that interest rates get kicked up a notch to stem inflation...in some cases, prices have dropped as much as $50k in 6 mos. no need for the mice to abandon ship just yet. it's just a little iceberg, slim.