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Prometheus 6

All respect and no restraint

In the next stage of development of our national consciousness, we all pretend to laugh at racial jokes for a five year period

Not work safe at all.


I'm so sorry for lmbao at

I'm so sorry for lmbao at that routine.

yikes...,I've bumped into

yikes...,

I've bumped into this troll when flipping the remote control and 30 seconds of her schtick is about all I can take...,  

Trickin off Chappelle

this is the logical development to Chappelle's show...where White comics feel free to excoriate (sp) minority groups in public and proffer the sorry excuse "its just jokes".  at least Dave had the critical capacity to examine White people's bullshit.  Comics like Lisa Lampanelli simply trick off of stereotypes about minorities, avoid any discussion of whiteness at all, and revel in the horrified laughter from their mostly white audiences. 

 if you see the full show, you'll wonder how she could pull her act off if there weren't any minorities in the audience - and who the camera would pan to for reactions.  it'd be a totally different show then, wouldn't it?  it would bear an astonishing resemblance to an Aryan Nation or KKK (or college Republican) event.

I've only seen this short

I've only seen this short clip, but it seemed balanced on the surface. The valley girl impression could be nothing but a white girl mockery. No (strait) white male jokes, though. I saw a Sarah Silverton show on you tube, and had to turn it off; she has a relentless and singular focus on the kneegrows.

The thing that makes racial humor tolerable for me is balance and self-deprication (of equal or greater magnitude) of the comedian's race/ethnic group.

On the subject of opening doors for white comedians to rip on blacks, I think that white comedians and their antecedents have a long and distinguished history of lampooning blacks. That's why the common (false) complaint about black comedians' assymetric white jokes ("you can make fun of us, but I'm a racist if I make fun of you, waaaah") falls so flat with me. I can only imagine what white comedians on the out-of-the way circuits say.

In a country where respected politicians can rip on blacks, focusing on comedians starts to seem like a red herring.

That was fucking hilarious

mostly.

Just curious...what wasn't

Just curious...what wasn't funny?

The middle eastern thing

The middle eastern thing didn't go over well, and the chinese thing almost didn't work. But she's got the timing. But she's one of the rare comics that doesn't couch the whole thing in apologies and go say yeah but we're really all alike blah blah. Rickles was one of the greatest as was Redd Foxx. No apologies, just funny shit.

Well, when the five years

Well, when the five years are over, the next phase is to laugh at a whole show targeting a single race. IOW, we're 'going home'.

Seriously, I just found her unfunny. I don't like shock jocks and their ilk either. Matter of taste. I have never even once seen or listened to Howard Stern's stuff. You're not weird; lotta folks laughed, baby get paid like new comedian(nes) do...not but so much.

I don't like shock jocks and

I don't like shock jocks and their ilk either.

I don't either. Doesn't make any difference what race they may be or who they happen to be ragging on. I don't find them funny at all.  

This Video Brings Me To a P6 Pillar:

Black people don't want to experience racism, and white people don't want to be responsible for racism.

jes me, but

Must be a class thing, then

OK, now you're gonna throw the 'you're not black enough' gauntlet on the table. Puh-lease. If what you laugh at gets you damned, alot of us are going to hell. 

I'm from the set of kneegrows that can 'appreciate' all sorts of comedic & musical junk food, from Shock Jocks, to Showtime at the Apollo, to Dirty South music, and racial comedy like the type above (to a limit, explained above).

I also like some of the new roast shows (now I remember where I've seen Lampenelli). And every once in a while, I catch Judge Mathis and Judge Judy back to back (shhhh).

All respect Cnulan, but speaking for myself speaking for me and all my working class boys still in Mississippi: we can walk and chew gum at the same time. That is, we can consume "base" media and still get enraged at the tangible injustices we endure.  

Speaking for the brothers that use 'nigga' like a pronoun (of which at one time I was one), we will never be black or enlightened enough--for some.

But do we care?.....I mean, in a way, it's like the conversation on the other thread, with some people basically accusing folks who enjoy Tyler Perry of supporting minstrelsy. 1) Do Tyler Perry's fans care, 2) Do they know what "minstrelsy" is, 3) Do they feel less black because some Black Theatre PhD says or implies they are 4) Are they less black because some BTP says or implies they are?

Cnulan, you just blew my

Cnulan, you just blew my mind with that clip in this context...I still don't agree, but I get your point.

I'm from the set of


I'm from the set of kneegrows that can 'appreciate' all sorts of comedic & musical junk food, from Shock Jocks, to Showtime at the Apollo, to Dirty South music, and racial comedy like the type above (to a limit, explained above).

good for you. I find much bathroom and slapstick humor wildly amusing.

OK, now you're gonna throw the 'you're not black enough' gauntlet on the table. Puh-lease. If what you laugh at gets you damned, alot of us are going to hell.

my simple definition of Blackness as the frequency and amplitude of one's interpersonal communion with Black folk doesn't really coincide with this. my slightly more involved understanding of laughter and humor doesn't support it either.

what I've said here applies equally well to the bits I chimed in on the Tyler Perry thread.., I actually have a significant investment in the frequency and amplitude of laughter, and an inability to engender it is an earmark of lopsidedness in my book.

This woman simply strikes me as terribly lopsided and thus not funny at all, kind of like the way I registered the liminals in Geoffrey Holder's waaaaay back commercial back in the day.

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