Prometheus 6

this little snippet of historical clarity is from a brother who was/is somewhat uniquely positioned to observe and know - so it's been underway for quite some time.

the biggest Ailes driven tactic underway right now is his use of Bill O'Reilly to attack freedom of speech on the Internet. Note the vintage on this joint. Now, as a daily O'Lielly listener, I assure you that he pounds this message at a minimum of one or two times a week on both teevee and radio. He's been at it for at least 4 years, ever since he got publicly hung out to dry for sexually harassing one of his subordinate female employees. these muhfukkaz genuinely fear the nets democratizing information flows.

i'd take the roots back a few years earlier, when the first disinformation and assymetrical information warfare papers were published by Rand and others, well in advance of the advent of the world-wide web.

i don't think i can overstate the uniqueness of this present moment in which a massive collective snapshot has been taken revealing the slimy underbelly of what these talkospheric/blogospheric propagandists have been up to. I hope we can continue connecting the dots to show how this all hangs together.

y'day and the day before was a stunning object lesson in how quickly the talking points were distributed to all the talkospheric minions at multiple levels from national to local in a coordinated effort to deflect/distract people away from the vulnerability to which they are now collectively exposed.

as unpleasant as it may be, i think it's vital that folks listen to the "conservative" talkosphere...,

y'day and the day before was a stunning object lesson in how quickly the talking points were distributed to all the talkospheric minions at multiple levels from national to local in a coordinated effort to deflect/distract people away from the vulnerability to which they are now collectively exposed.

It can only work if you listen to them. Since we already know they're liars and racists, I see no need.

the fact that you didn't listen to imus obviates any concern you have expressed over the last 8 days about seeing him brought down. How you propose to systematically engage your enemy if you spend no time studying his methods and his practices?

the point is that lots of folks do listen to these busters and these busters spend a great deal of time studying and developing effective measures for controlling their own. In addition, they have developed and deployed highly effective countermeasures for marginalizing, suppressing, and countering most of what you profess.

where do you suppose the bulk of kneegrow conservative recruitment and reinforcement takes place?

Since we already know they're liars and racists, I see no need.

and that attitude is at least in part why they've had a highly successful 12 years in which the've managed to hijack the American system of governance and exert far greater influence than their numbers and motives warrant. lest you take this as hyperbole, I'm also referring to the extent to which they've hijacked local electoral politics and have organized the types of street teams required to vastly amplify their influence and control. they've made a science out of embodying and implementing their ideology while so-called progressives are hella disorganized and hit or miss.

you ignore these people at your own peril...,

I don't ignore these people. I ignore their rhetoric.

You think this is some kneejerk reaction?

I don't have to say shit to them to pressure the Democratic Party about possible involvement with Fox. Same goes for the CBC. As for humans, there's only one human pattern and all manner of frills attached to it.

Meanwhile there's no possibility of affecting their position. At all.

Pursuing your own objectives is the best way of obstructing your opponent's objective of blocking you. Best defense is a strong offence...after all, isn't that the base strategy of those you warn against?

I don't need to pay attention to them, so I won't. That's my choice based on my understanding.

It's time folks pushed back.

True.

What I'm arguing against is chasing around behind drive-time radio fans, trying to figure out what they're going to do next to counter them. That's what Democrats did...that's what put Republicans  in charge of the government. They took Congress when they stopped doing that.

It is far, far, FAR more important to get your own house in order first. 

Pursuing your own objectives is the best way of obstructing your opponent's objective of blocking you.

Pursuing your own objectives is indispensible, the sine qua non, right? I'm always on about the project and institution building because we must become stronger and more methodical no matter what. This opponent isn't simply trying to block you, he wants to hobble and subordinate you. Not kill you, but put your ass in check like back in his nostalgically remembered good old days.

Best defense is a strong offence...after all, isn't that the base strategy of those you warn against?

Look, Imus was so deep into his unconscious pattern and praxis that he tripped up and showed his ass. Subsequently, a perfect storm formed around that indisputable flash of stank and so here we are.

Faux news OTOH doesn't do jack shit that's unconscious. Its pattern and praxis is intentional and has a very definite motive. IMOHO, you reach out and touch that with extreme prejudice whenever and whereever you can. Oh, and you don't do it reactively, you go and intentionally take chunks out of its hide as a matter of course. I'll give you a case in point. Yesterday afternoon, I did a little telephonic guerilla theatre and completely derailed the Parks and Shannin drivetime show.

They were assing up about big sessies (Whitlock's) ignorant piece and doing their level best to put this whole thing on Sharpton and Jackson (Faux news and EIB talking points). So I called in and told them that their analysis had a huge blind spot and could I help them out with a little further perspective.

First, coarse culture is American culture, not Black culture. That rap and School Daze is produced for them, and mostly consumed by them or else it wouldn't pay to do it. (they agreed)

I then proposed that Imus was just an unwitting victim of American popular culture - that he got caught up and forgot his place. (they asked for an explanation of this)

So I then divided and conquered them. Parks is 35 years old, and Shannin is in his late 60's. So I told Parks that my next question was just for Shannin and other grown folks. This tickled Shannin no end and pissed Parks off. So I asked Shannin if he remembered the first time he heard Little Richard do Tutti Fruiti and whether it electrified him from his rooter to his tooter? He eagerly volunteered that he did and it had. Then I asked him whether he rememberd Pat Boone's version of Tutti Fruiti and whether that moved him similarly. He had to confess that Pat Boone was hella weak and phukked up.

With that established, I proposed that Imus had really offended everybody by having a Pat Boone moment in which he incompetently attempted something reserved for a culturally and aesthetically competent subset of much younger and much darker men? That once viewed from that perspective, that trying to put this over on Sharpton and Jackson simply makes no sense, further that blaming Imus oops moment on Black folks makes no sense whatsoever, that he just got caught up in a Pat Boone moment and forgot his place.

Of course they hung up on me at that very moment, but the damage was already inflicted.

The next caller was an older, conservative white guy and he was cracking up laughing at how easily I derailed their entire flow. Matter of fact, I phukked them up so severely that they changed the subject.

I don't need to pay attention to them, so I won't. That's my choice based on my understanding.

of course it's your choice, but me, I pay attention to them because I like knowing their entire pattern and praxis and even more, I like honing my skills at attacking them at will.  Old habits die hard and I have a certain fondness for attack and penetration.

There is no better place for brer rabbit guerilla theatre than taking it directly to them in their very own comfort zone when and where they least expect it. 

simple,

afrospheric talking points can be methodically organized and distributed and deployed in concert against Faux-news/EIB analogs..., like right now, they've pretty much given up on the Sharpton/Jackson angle and have moved on to a concerted focus on the Duke Lacrosse situation.  

All of them today, from local to national, morning to night have coordinated their efforts on comparing contrasting nappy-gate with Duke Lacrosse.  Best as I can tell, this is something that started out last night on the Factor with Michelle Malkin standing in for Bill O'Lielly.  

picked up by the likes of Tavis, Steve Harvey and Tom Joyner, there would be a simultaneous, highly talented delivery of counterpoints and in short order, the rhetorical upper hand would shift, as we took over the Luntzian tactical gamebook and used it to advance our own cohesive narrative. 

In response to Spencer Overton's brand spanking new post on continuing the debate..., things are getting interesting.

Okay, you got my attention with McWhorter. But I doubt he'll follow up with any conversation.

kneegrow had just taken a lung busting bong hit and came streaking through on a dare from his girl heather mcdonald who was shouting, "hit the shit, don't babysit"!

The increasing levels of compexity that would be entailed by us anticipating and countering all the moves or expected moves of the right made me think of James J. Angelton who was the long time chief of counterintelligence at the CIA before the walls of mirrors he had constructed began driving him crazy too. The character Edward Carlson who is portrayed by Matt Damon in the movie The Good Shepherd is based on Angelton.

I'm not going to discuss McWhorter.

afrospheric talking points can be methodically organized and distributed and deployed in concert against Faux-news/EIB analogs..., like right now, they've pretty much given up on the Sharpton/Jackson angle and have moved on to a concerted focus on the Duke Lacrosse situation.

This is an excellent point, CN! Too many of us who believe that we have arrived have forgotten that these folks mean to do us harm and they intend to do so 24/7. At one time some of us might have had the luxury of thinking that our differences with them was about policy and ideas but events over the past 25 years or so should have disabused us of this calmative. We do have to recognize that we are at war and begin to implement a strategy to combat their disinformation campaign.

I only wish I knew where to find the pre-broadcast talking points so that I could review these and anticipate an angle of attack with which to deftly derail the discussions that will begin like clockwork in the talkosphere tomorrow morning.

shannin and parks had local Black attorney Sylvester James on friday afternoon, and he got deftly surgical on all their bullshit, it was superb.  Kind of like eugene robinson and gwen ifil had to get with tim russert this morning on meet the press...,