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Prometheus 6

All respect and no restraint

A teaching moment

Social sciences types can use the creation of the Latino construct to teach how race is a social construct.

'Some other race?'
Louis Freedberg
Monday, June 2, 2003 [P6: Yes, 2003.]

Begin with the basics. Forty-seven percent of us are white, 32 percent are Hispanic, 12 percent are Asian and 7 percent are black. Hispanics make up California's largest minority group.

… On the 2000 U.S. Census, 40 percent of Hispanics classified themselves as "white," according to a new report by the Public Policy Institute of California (check it out on www.ppic.org). Another 51 percent said they belonged to "some other racial group."

… The Census first asks us to indicate whether we're "Spanish/Hispanic/Latino." No matter if you're an astronaut born in Spain, a third-generation Mexican American neurosurgeon or a farmworker from Guatemala who came here last week, you can check that box.

… They do however have the option of checking an unspecified "some other race" box. In California, an astonishing 5.5 million Hispanics chose that option.

In fact, 99 percent of those who checked "some other race" were Hispanic. After whites, "some other race" Californians are now the state's largest racial group, dwarfing the state's 3.7 million Asians and 2.3 million African Americans.

… As of March, the [Department of Finance] began to recognize that Hispanics aren't really a unitary group. For the first time it issued statistics breaking down Hispanics by racial group. Progress, right?

Not really. Now we're told that of the state's 10.9 million Hispanics, 10.2 million are "Hispanic whites." Another 180,000 are "Hispanic Asians and Pacific Islanders" and 200,144 are "Hispanic blacks."

Now I'm really confused. Almost all of the state's largest minority are actually "white?" And in addition to deciding on whether to call someone a Latino, Hispanic or Chicano, I now also have to consider whether they are Hispanic Asian or a Hispanic black?

 

 

What's a Hispanic ASIAN? Are there such folks?

What country are they from?

I think they're domestic.

I think they're domestic.

pinoys homies

from the philipines - spanish, tagalog, and everything nice.....,

That occurred to me but they

That occurred to me but they tend to register as Asian.

I've never once thought of a Philippino as anything other than

Asian. I've never met someone from the Philippines who identified themselves as anything other than Asian.

Wouldn't they just be an

Wouldn't they just be an Asian person born somewhere in the Spanish-speaking world, eg. ex-Peruvian president Fujimori? I mean, white Hispanices are white people born somewhere in the Spanish-speaking world...

That's why I figured they

rikyrah:

That's why I figured they were domestic. I saw a few examples of the specific case in California. Given white Latinos, maybe more than I thought.

Wouldn't they just be an


Wouldn't they just be an Asian person born somewhere in the Spanish-speaking world

Fujimori is  a Japanese-Peruvian, assuming they slice it that thin. He might be just Peruvian.

It would be interesting to see what boxes he'd check on the Census if he moved here. 

too bad...,


Asian. I've never met someone from the Philippines who identified themselves as anything other than Asian.

you should get around more filipinos then, if for no other reason than the cuisine..,  300 years of spanish colonization had a tremendous impact on lots of folks.  if y'all believe its chino transplants from mexico, that's fine, but demographically they're miniscule in comparison with the multiple filipino communities in California, many of whose members would self-identify with the hispanic language and values they brought with them from home.

one of my wife's closest friends is a filipino woman from an immense extended family whose daughters by-and-large married mexican men and whose mexipino-ness tends to predominate in the larger filipino community out this way - it's through this conduit that I was introduced to mexipino enclaves in cali 

And if asked their race

And if asked their race these people would say "I'm Asian-Hispanic" and not "I'm Filipino"?

I've known a lot of them. Never heard it.

one of my wife's closest friends is a filipino woman from an immense extended family whose daughters by-and-large married mexican men and whose mexipino-ness tends to predominate in the larger filipino community out this way

Okay. Domestic, as I suggested. 

just the facts....,

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