Rikyrah pointed out this Rush and Malloy piece in the NY Daily News. Normally I just drop such stuff in the press releases pile, but we have a special place in our heart for Dr. Rice.
No, wait, that was Prometheus 5 who felt that way.
Well, I'm in the middle of it now.
Dr. Rice is trying to separate herself from the Bush regime but she's not going to have as easy a time of it as, say, a Republican senator (which says a lot). She's as much a part of the Bushista regime as Cheney, so it's little wonder she's taken a similar tack in image management...a multi-pronged campaign eerily similar to the sort of campaign D.C. lobbyist regularly offer
Now Ms. Rice is working hard to reshape her legacy in her remaining 16 months in office. She is cooperating with a range of authors who have lined up to write books about her: “The Confidante: Condoleezza Rice and the Creation of the Bush Legacy,” by The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler, comes out next week, while “Condoleezza Rice: An American Life,” by The New York Times’s Elisabeth Bumiller is due out in December. “Twice as Good: Condoleezza Rice and Her Path to Power,” by Marcus Mabry, now an editor at The Times, came out in May.
Of course these authors "enjoyed unprecedented access to [their] subject", and of course that's no assurance YOU get the whole, or real, story.
Part of her problem is trying to undo the previously issued spin
There was a time when, perhaps more than Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama, Condoleezza Rice seemed to have the best shot at becoming the first woman or the first African-American to be president.
Temple 3 worked that aspect to death, so we shall include it by reference. Besides, it's the reshaping of the soft stuff I'm finding so interesting.
She does let her hair down. Once at a party Blacker threw, Condi kicked off her shoes and started dancing. Wanting to show his partner how firm Rice's behind was, Blacker postulated that if he aimed a quarter at her butt, it would bounce right off like a rocket.
"He was right," says Kessler. "[Rice] didn't realize what he had done until everyone was laughing hysterically. She was flattered and proud."
Being flattered and proud as everyone laughs at the quarter bouncing off her ass? Really? Though we have been aware of Condi's ass since 2004, Condi the Sex Kitten does not parse. Who thinks this helps a woman of her stature?
The clerk showed her costume jewelry. Rice asked to see something nicer, prompting the clerk to whisper some sass under her breath.
Blacker remembers Rice tearing the woman to shreds.
"Let's get one thing straight," he recalls her saying. "You are behind the counter because you have to work for minimum wage. I'm on this side asking to see the good jewelry because I make considerably more."
A manager quickly brought Rice better baubles.
Someone who thinks she needs renegrofication. Which requires her ass be capable of bouncing quarters, I guess. And some understated bling. I keep wondering how Madeline Albright would react if someone pitched a quarter at her ass and the room burst into laughter.
I actually wish her luck. I've never felt hostile toward her as human being; I think she has internal class issues.It's like the first time I flew business class...I was like, damn, free drinks, slippers, video games, they must give head in first class. You really hate the subway for about a week after that.
Her loyalty is pretty typical of a person that was lifted from brutal repression (which the Confederate States of America was, especially for a developing child of her perspicacity) directly, almost with no transition, to the central circles of influence. I decided long ago her major issue is that she's a loyal employee.
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Good insights. I have been
Good insights. I have been predicting for a while that Rice would attempt to separate herself from the actual parameters of the Bush legacy when it no longer bolstered her place in the history books.
Dr. Rice and Stanford University
The opposition that is surfacing to having Dr. Rice return to Stanford reminds me of the stories that I heard about Henry Kissinger's attempts to return to Harvard University after his stint on behalf of world peace in the Nixon Administration. He was told privately to forget about it because the resistence from the faculty was so strong. Rice will probably get an appointment at the Hoover Institute if she does not return to her post at Stanford. She and Br. Shelby Steele can spend time discussing the end of blackness and its meaning for U.S. foreign policy in sub-Sahran Africa.
Her loyalty is pretty
Her loyalty is pretty typical of a person that was lifted from brutal repression...
Dr. Rice did not directly experience any of the racial oppression nor did she or members of her immediate family participate in any efforts to lift the jackboot off of the collective necks of black folks. Dr. Rice's father publicy condemned the civil rights demonstrators. Her parents were so enamored of her and thought that she was so special that they chose not to have any additional children because they felt it would be unfair to her.
Jim Crow counts as brutal
Jim Crow counts as brutal repression.
Condi
Well, looks like the Donkeys are trying to run Condi out of town.
does it?
how about for those many who had grown to "know" and "accept" their place in Jim Crow society? I believe the term of derision for such folks was "responsible negros". I ask this thinking about members of non-brahmin/non-kshatriya castes in india who do not violently oppose their assigned lot in that life.
such acceptance goes very far to account for the "hear no, see no, speak no" level of loyalty that mademoiselle rice has exhibited, and, the
acceptanceendorsement of the status quo American aristocracy by negro conservatives who have always viewed her as an exemplar and sincerely wonder why many of us do not.Rice Apolitical?
Part of the problem Republicans have with Rice is that we believe that she's too passive and apolitical. In other words, she takes the SOS job seriously...
"Birth pangs of the new Middle East" - Secretary of State Rice's response to the bombing and shelling of civilian sites by the Israeli military.
Political Bona Fides
Many of us who post on this site have been in politics for a while, Section9. If you are under the age of 40 then I have been in politics longer than you have been out of your mother's womb. What arrogance!
Jim Crow counts as brutal
Jim Crow counts as brutal repression.
Yes, it does but I would be hesitant to describe Dr. Rice's contact with the day-to-day experience of Jim Crow as extensive.
pt: Those pinkframed
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Those pinkframed comments aren't public yet.
Section9
That is such a bizarre suggestion. And yet, we are talking about the party that ONLY looked for Black candidates to face Obama in the Senate race. That they settled on Alan Keyes shows how racialistic the Republican party is. They may well want to run Condi to "balance" Obama.
She may be a loyal employee, but is she really crazy enough to do that? Do you really think the party of the Southern Strategy is ready to run a pro-abortion cross-dresser who backed Bernie Kerek and has the NYC Fire Dept saying he overstates his involvement is the 9/11 recovery, and put a Black woman a heartbeat from the Presidency?
Jim Crow counts as brutal
Those positions were created by the brutal repression.
Those positions were created
Those positions were created by the brutal repression.
Yes and no. The Jim Crow system created the efficient conditions for those willing to "know" and "accept" their place in Jim Crow society but those individuals, black and white, who accepted these roles fostered the sufficient conditions to make the system work. All of them could have acted otherwise. The conditions they were born into and inherited were only contingent realities. The Civil Rights Movement showed that these conditions were not fixed, glacial realities.
What I'm going to say will probably come across as sexist
But, from woman to woman, it's time for Condi to GET PAID.
It's time for her to play on whatever cache she has built up over the years, and get married. I'm sure there's some rich guy out there who wouldn't mind her as his Trophy Wife. Since she's past child bearing years, they don't have to worry about that. But, I'm sure that she would be an asset as someone's Trophy Wife.
Yes, I said it.
You know, it was always bizarre for me, the choice of Keyes
That is such a bizarre suggestion. And yet, we are talking about the party that ONLY looked for Black candidates to face Obama in the Senate race. That they settled on Alan Keyes shows how racialistic the Republican party is. They may well want to run Condi to "balance" Obama.******
It was very obvious that they weren't serious - the Illinois or national GOP. Why choose Keyes - because they wanted it to be a farce. If they were actually serious, then why not choose someone who had actually been elected to public office - like J.C. Watts, who served his Congressional District well and had been reelected several times, or why not Michael Steele, who, at the time, was a sitting Lt. Governor? IF the GOP had actually been serious, they could have easily imported one or both of them, and they wouldn't have been the farce that was Keyes.
She may be a loyal employee, but is she really crazy enough to do that? Do you really think the party of the Southern Strategy is ready to run a pro-abortion cross-dresser who backed Bernie Kerek and has the NYC Fire Dept saying he overstates his involvement is the 9/11 recovery, and put a Black woman a heartbeat from the Presidency? **************
Rudy don't like Black people. He's never choose her. He'll choose plastic Flipping Mitt.
I think J.C. Watts is done
Steele thought he had something better in the works. And I think J.C. Watts is done with all that. I think he was a true believer, got disappointed and decided to take his connections and cash out. And god bless him for it.
I've been in politics since 1972
...so I've been around awhile. Knocked on doors for Tricky Dick, and lived to regret it.
Giuliani will be our nominee: take that to the bank.
This scares Democrats. Hillary's entire strategy was built around running against Elmer Gantry: George Allen. Well, Allen got in touch with his Inner Macaca and lost to Jim Webb. That blew a hole wide open for Rudy, who is leading in all the big primary states, and will probably catch on to do respectably well in New Hampshire and Iowa. If you look at the national polling, Rudy remains ahead of the competition, Fred, who is having trouble getting his race off the ground. Mitt Romney exudes phoniness in a time that voters want authenticity.
"the facts as I see them" =
"the facts as I see them" = "opinion"
Facts have special status here. What I saw what a bunch of interpretations that require you to believe a lot of assertions that, frankly, strike me as absurd.
Being a Black partisan space, if you are not coming from that perspective you'll likely find it uncomfortable after a short while. I don't think you're a Black partisan and I only think it fair to warn you because you CAN affect how we react to what you say by choosing your words well.
Alan Keyes...
Was a political racketeer. He gulled all sorts of grabastic fools into supporting his various campaigns-but they were all rackets, every one of them. I know a Republican political operative who worked his Maryland Senate race back in the nineties. Keyes lost by several trillion votes. Still, this guy has faith in Alan Keyes.
Of course they strike you as absurd.
You are, in all probability, a Democrat. You don't see me speculating about the inner workings of the Donkey Party, now do you? Of course not.
Heh
"That they settled on Alan Keyes shows how racialistic the Republican party is. "
There's more to the selection of Keyes to run a clown show campaign than simpleminded racism.
Obama's most powerful backer was the moderate GOP Chicago Tribune, which completely destroyed Obama's two most formidible centimillionair rivals. The Illinois GOP leadership had already torpedoed their own freshman incumbent, Senator Peter Fitzgerald, for bringing in an outsider as Federal prosecutor ( Patrick Fitzgerald, no relation, who is now in the process of throwing large numbers of Democratic and Republican politicians in jail). After the Trib ruined Jack Ryan, no top tier GOP politician cared to seek the nomination ( and they asked everyone with a "name") and the other rich guy running, the ice cream tycoon, Jim Oberweis, self-destructed as a lightweight right-winger.
Keyes got the nod partly for being a black conservative, partly for being an irresponsible loose cannon (entertainment value) and partly becuse being from out-of-state meant his landslide loss would not bring the stock of any Illinois Republican bigwigs down with him or aggravate the ongoing split between moderate GOP machine "regulars" and the militantly anti-abortionist, social conservative, United Republican Fund faction. The latter, usually bitter critics of the party leadership, was even kind of pleased because of Keyes pro-Life zealotry met their litmus test.
I take my leave of you for
I was about to suggest you get a blog...
Republicans are not welcome until I see proof they've abandoned the Southern Strategy and the constant attacks on Black folks. However, as I said, if you choose your words correctly and don't try to take over the joint, you could hang. Individuals have proven to be cool...others have proven to have a disruptive agenda.
I was told by a Republican here, on this site, that the Republican platform means nothing. To flip from Bush to Giuliani verifies that.
I have a metaphor that a programmer would understand.
Suppose you were on a Perl mailing list, and every time someone asks a question this guy pops up and says, "Here's how you do it in PHP!" He'd not be long for the list.
Arrogance
Please cut the self-righteousness. I was trying to have a reasonable poltical discussion with people here. I'm not being arrogant at all, just stating the facts as I see them. I can't help how you react to that. Sorry.
When you come on a website where many of us have been posting for a while and presume to tell us by implication that your opinions carry more weight than ours do because you have been involved in politics and instruct us as to the veracity of the New York Times then you are being arrogant. I am willing to discuss issues with you but don't try blowing smoke up my ass and convincing me that you're setting the world on fire.
Another Reason Why I Welcome Your Departure
...you're really more like Free Republic or Daily Kos than you may want to admit.
I can't speak for others but one of the reasons I post my opinions here is precisely because it is not like Free Republic or Daily Kos. I'm not a Democratic Party partisan; never have been.I don't think most folks who put in time here are.
LOL!
Well...I'm certainly not.
Please cut the
"Please cut the self-righteousness. I was trying to have a reasonable poltical discussion with people here. I'm not being arrogant at all, just stating the facts as I see them. I can't help how you react to that. Sorry".
Did anyone accuse this guy of arrogance, or respond to his comment in a self-righteous manner? I didn't see that. I think he came here "primed", if you know what I mean. He commented on a post about Rice at Temple3, and started off with "Yes, but you're a leftist...". I think he has only one frame of reference, which most black folks don't fit into, so all he knows to do is think "leftist".
I suspect he's a guerilla
I suspect he's a guerilla marketer working the blogs for the PR firm that's trying to reshape her image.
J' Accuse
I accused him of being arrogant because he is arrogant. I continually find it interesting that ideological activists working on behalf of the Republican Party are genuinely not able to deal with black folks whose thinking about political issues are divorced from the daily and weekly talking points drafted by the public relations specialists employed by the Democratic and Republican parties.
This is especially true for black and white Republican activists. They seem incapable of arguing about a position on its merits with black partisans without constantly trying to inject our arguments with equine genes or shape them to fit into the talking points of their own arguments. They are simply not able to conceive that there exists black people who are not slavishly devoted to the Democratic Party and are not interested in advancing the Democratic Party's interests. P6 is correct in labling the Republican Party as "racialistic." The drones in the Republican beehive truly believe that any black person who is not a registered Republican must be a Democratic Party partisan.
Crack Head Giuliani Troll
Where did that ass come from? Scratch that - I see your comment. Probably right. Guerrilla marketer. I'm 'bout to delete his ignant Section 8 ass. That qualifies as SPAM where I come from.
I figured he fit right in
I figured he fit right in with the object lesson provided by the Imus shock troopers. It's the only reason I let the comments pass.