Prometheus 6

I would be curious to know if the reservations that black progressives have had towards the Clintons were as pronounced when they came to power.  Has anyone been surprised as the Clintons have consistently shown their true colors?  How has the black progressive agenda evolved since the start of the first Clinton term? 

Most Black Progressives got suspicious with the Sister Souljah incident. I think that's when Jesse Jackson started losing them too. The Lani Guinier thing pushed more of us over the side. I think the group memory of the Clintons being 'so black' consists of "mend it, don't end it," and "a national conversation on race"...both of which turned up empty. I think all our surprise with Bill was over by the end of his second term.

And no one knew, because they don't talk TO us, they talk ABOUT us.

black progressives were likely wary about clinton as early as ricky ray rector.

i don't know about black liberals (neo and otherwise).  

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Ricky Ray Rector raised serious doubts for me and the Sistah Souljah pandering moment cemented the deal. By the time, Bill threw Lani Guinier under the bus I was long gone from the reservation .

i make the distinction between black progressives and black liberals because in a number of black circles support for bill clinton was very high. i say was because i'm pretty sure that drops after this campaign.

This stuff is getting so bad that even some white folks are noticing.

With the latest surrogate eruption, though, I think Bob Johnson himself IS the message they were trying to send. Considering that Clinton's dog-whistling is targeted towards whites, what was needed was for Johnson to say something that would make himself the focus of the media attention and, in the way the "this blackfolk can be directly exchanged for that blackfolk" thing works in many white minds, associate him - and BET with all the booty shaking and thugging and the other nasty ways the channel stereotypes and denigrates Black people - with Obama.

 Vote Obama, the message says, and you'll put someone in the white house who is little more than a street corner thug who will corrupt your children while his wife and daughters (don't fall for the facade!) shake their booties in all the rooms. 

I don't know...it strikes me more like when Republicans imported Alan Keyes to run against Obama. Fight Negros with Negros. Add a touch of Roland Fryer

Fryer well appreciates that he can raise questions that most white scholars wouldn't dare. His collaborators, most of whom are white, appreciate this, too. ''Absolutely, there's an insulation effect,'' says the Harvard economist Edward L. Glaeser. ''There's no question that working with Roland is somewhat liberating.''

And you're in there. 

I don't know... I think that is part of it, the Alan Keyes type thing. But, the next day or so, what is being heavily pushed today by online Clinton partisans?

 This story (along with rhetoric by some about how he has promised to use hip hop to teach the children of America, or something like that and about how Obama is the REAL racist, of course.)

 Some folks have been trying to debunk it but, as we all know... it's not the truth that matters, what matters is that the lie gets out there in the first place. 

I hope pimp daddy Bob Johnson takes his minstrel show on the road for the Clinton Campaign. He's almost as good a promoter of the ABC (anybody but clinton) option as Bill and Hillary.

 This story (along with rhetoric by some about how he has promised to use hip hop to teach the children of America, or something like that and about how Obama is the REAL racist, of course.)

That's pathetic. 

BET represents more than sufficient grounds to find Johnson guilty as charged but let's not forget too how he and his minions destroyed the news and information program founded by Glenn Ford and others, America's Black Forum.

Really? I thought it died when Arstrong Baldpate became a regular.

The appearance of Armstrong Baldpate was a sign that the program had been slated for an early grave. The myth was that black people needed to hear the views of paid mouthpieces like Baldpate etc. as if they did not already have sufficient outlets to spread their poisonous views.

Ya'll need to open up a window after bringing Underarms up in here.