Prometheus 6

I find it interesting that Hillary has been reinvented to symbolically represent the very real types of discriminatory and sexist policies and attitudes that many, many women have faced and are still facing today.

Similarly, is Obama that person for black folks?

No, he is most emphatically not that person for black folks!

As someone climbing the ladder in corporate america, I have to say that I see some familiar patterns in Obama's climb to the white house: moving of the goalposts, white insiders' insider status being bandied as "experience", "he's not ready". Not to mention people's seething resentment that he would take what is someone else's entitlement.

Now, I am not voting for him because I see these patterns; he is a man to be admired, not pitied. But everytime he gets a good left hook into hillary, or any of his nefarious detractors, I do feel a small, vicarious thrill.

I see your point, Keto, but what affinity does Hillary Clinton really share with working class white women who are, by and large, high school graduates other than the color of their skins. In addition, what opportunities and life chances do you think Hillary has been denied because she is a woman. I know a lot of women - Black, White, Asian, Hispanic etc. - who have been screwed over in the work place etc. solely because they were women. When did Hillary and her crowd, including Maggie Williams who is a black woman - get skipped over because of their gender?

took Obama to their busom because they saw themselves and their fight in Corporate America with what he's had to deal with. The continued ' moving the bar' cuts so close to the bone, how could we not identify?

So, while Obama, who began with nothing but a good education, ambition, personal skills and an ability to conquer the rules of ' The Game', Hillary was privileged from practically Day One, and has achieved EVERYTHING PROFESSIONALLY because of WHO SHE MARRIED.

Yes, but she has been allowed to rewrite her personal narrative because too many white people feel that white privilege is at stake in this election. What is at stake is the future of this country but these folks are too blind to see that fact. And, as usual, white folks at the top of the food chain will use fear mongering or any other tactic to enlist the assistance of working and lower class whites in their cause.

I think we now have enough evidence to show that in Obama's case the goalposts are constantly being moved. He won 11 straight primaries but the media continued to treat his opponent as if she were a viable candidate. If Obama had loss 11 straight primaries folks would be demanding that he get off the stage. I could go on and on but you get my point.

Are you saying that the DL is really about careerism??? Huh!?!? LOL

PT, I agree with your point about Hillary.

My question was about whether or not black folks hold Obama to a similar narrative, and if so, how much does his true story fit this narrative.

As to white folks thinking this is about the loss of WP, that's interesting. I have seen some talk online about folks wanting to keep blacks from having "bragging rights", but I have not seen this desire to hold on the WP explicitly. Is there anything to fear; one black president won't eliminate WP. White folks have to know this.

Well, if you want to deny black folks "bragging rights", i.e., the same sense of joy and extended kinship that other groups in this country, .e.g., Poles, Irish Catholics, Lithuanians, Jews, Swedes, Italians etc. feel when one of their own wins high elective office or a prestigious award then you are, in my opinion, afraid of losing white privilege. The elevation of other individuals in this society does not seem to cause these folks any problems but when it comes to a black person sitting in the Oval Office their brains freeze up and they break out in a cold sweat. If that is not fear of a black planet then...

Wanting to withhold "bragging rights" from blacks is an excuse I have heard for opposing him. 

Yes, I understood that is what you meant. My use of the word "you" was intended as a euphemism. I know that you are not opposed to Obama's candidacy.