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Prometheus 6

All respect and no restraint

Vice President? Go to Hillary...

"The fact is you've got a very close race … and people on both sides are getting more dug in with their particular candidate," says Leon Panetta, a former California congressman and White House chief of staff for Bill Clinton. "That raises the potential that whoever gets the nomination, the other candidate will feel like he or she has been robbed." 

One of them, anyway...Black people don't have that sense of entitlement in the USofA.

However, one in four said an Obama-Clinton ticket was "not acceptable." Another one in four ruled out a Clinton-Obama ticket.

Voters were most resistant to the idea of having the candidate they support accept the No. 2 slot. A third of Obama supporters rejected a Clinton-Obama ticket, and a third of Clinton supporters rejected an Obama-Clinton ticket.

Obama himself would have to talk me into accepting Hillary as his second. And it would be a long, hard conversation. Frankly, I don't think he has it in him. 

Worried Dems wish for 'dream team'
By Susan Page, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — What are the odds Democrats will field a "dream team ticket" with Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton combining forces?

London bookmaker Ladbrokes is taking bets at 8-1, but leading Democratic insiders aren't ready to put down their money — yet.

The conundrum: The need for a coalition ticket that could mend the party's divisions becomes more urgent as the primary battle stretches on and takes a harsher tone. Yet as their fight gets fiercer, it becomes harder to imagine the two ever getting together.

"It ain't a match made in heaven anymore," says Donna Brazile, a Democratic strategist who ran Al Gore's 2000 campaign, noting increasingly bitter statements made in recent weeks by each campaign's staff and supporters toward the other. Monday's back-and-forth centered on charges of McCarthyism and "gutter politics."

Growing alarm among some Democrats that the rancor could squander what had seemed like a near-certain win in November makes them yearn for a ticket with both Obama and Clinton, in either order. A nomination contest that continues to the August convention could split the party in two just as the general election begins in earnest.

"Nastier things have been said in other primaries," says Matt Bennett, a veteran of retired general Wesley Clark's 2004 presidential bid and co-founder of a think tank called Third Way. "The difference is there's something that is truly at risk here — this incredible excitement that both candidates have generated. My concern is the level of acrimony could rise to such a point that the people both candidates are bringing out could become disillusioned and stay home in the fall."

Bennett and other Democratic analysts worry that voters under 30, energized to turn out for Obama in record numbers in this year's primaries, could tune out if he isn't nominated. While African-American voters who now support Obama by nearly 9-to-1 aren't likely to support the Republican candidate, some might choose not to vote unless the Illinois senator leads the ticket.

And white women over 50 who are part of Clinton's base — and among the nation's most reliable voters — could become disenchanted with the Democratic Party if she doesn't prevail.

Obama & Hillary would not be

Obama & Hillary would not be a dream ticket. Why would Obama want Hillary and Bill lurking around the White House causing mischief? Bill is a loose cannon. If Obama has more pledged delegates than Hillary and has won more primaries thus putting him in the lead for popular votes but Hillary secures the nomination via superdelegates then damn right Obama supporters would feel screwed. Hillary and her folks would feel screwed if Obama got the nod only because they feel they are entitled to be in the White House.

Hillary and her folks picked a fight at a time and place of their choosing. They let their mouths write checks that their asses couldn't cash. And the superdelegates and other Democratic Party honchos stood back and watched because (1) they enjoyed watching a fight; and, (2) they doubted that Obama could take on the vaunted Clinton Machine and prevail. The superdelegates can put this baby to bed whenever they feel like doing so. What I wish they would stop doing is telling us how much they hate trainwrecks. They all know that if you shuffle, you have to deal.

Hell to the Naw -- to no ' Dream Ticket'.

Did you see the Rasmussen poll....Hillpatine would get 55% of the Black vote.

To be honest, I'm mad it's that high, but hell, we haven't even begun to really raise a stink - we could drive those numbers into the ground.

 I don't remotely see why the hell Hillpatine's voters would feel screwed. She wouldn't have won anything and would have stolen it. Obama played by the rules and beat her. Plain and simple.

Why Pres/VP?

The so-called "dream ticket" doesn't have to be president and vp. It could be president and Senate majority leader. President and secretary of state. President and ambassador to China (yeah, that's the ticket! Hillary as ambassador to China--that would send the right wing yakkers into a frenzy!)

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