You don't even get the Politics tag, Mrs. Clinton. You just get the Race and Identity tag.
She referred to an Associated Press story on Indiana and North Carolina exit polls "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hardworking Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
She added, "There's a pattern emerging here."
Indeed there is. Mr. Krugman...
More tirades from Obama supporters against Mrs. Clinton are not the answer — they will only further alienate her grass-roots supporters, many of whom feel that she received a raw deal.
Nor is it helpful to insult the groups that supported Mrs. Clinton, either by suggesting that racism was their only motivation or by minimizing their importance.
...what say you?
Discussions of how and why Mr. Obama’s support narrowed over time have a Rashomon-like quality: different observers see very different truths. But at this point it doesn’t matter whose fault it was.
You STILL think there are different truths? You still think it doesn't matter whose fault it is?
HILL DROPS A RACIAL BOMB
By MAGGIE HABERMAN
May 9, 2008 --
Hillary Rodham Clinton played the race card yesterday as she dismissed Barack Obama as a candidate who will have a hard time winning support from "white Americans."
It was the most starkly racial comment Clinton has made in the campaign, and drew quick condemnation from some Democrats.
She's been on the defensive ever since Tuesday's big loss in North Carolina and narrow win in the Indiana primary - dismissing calls to drop out.
"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she told USA Today in an interview published yesterday.
She referred to an Associated Press story on Indiana and North Carolina exit polls "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hardworking Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
She added, "There's a pattern emerging here."
An analysis of racial breakdowns is always done behind the scenes by campaigns, but it's rarely discussed by a candidate openly.
The Obama campaign declined comment, referring to spokesman Bill Burton's statement to USA Today.
Burton, noting that Obama performed strongly among working-class voters in Indiana and did better with whites there than in Ohio, said the Illinois senator will appeal "to Americans from every background and all walks of life."
"These statements from Sen. Clinton are not true and, frankly, disappointing," he said.
Clinton's "white Americans" remark drew a swift rebuke from some superdelegates, and private dismay from several Democrats concerned about reuniting the factionalized party.
Muriel Offerman, a North Carolina superdelegate who has not disclosed her choice, said, "That should not have been said. I think it drives a wedge, a racial wedge, and that's not what the Democratic Party's about."
Asked about Clinton's comments, Massachusetts superdelegate Debra Kozikowsi said, "That's distressing. I'm not even sure how to respond to that."
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"More tirades from Obama
"More tirades from Obama supporters against Mrs. Clinton are not the answer — they will only further alienate her grass-roots supporters, many of whom feel that she received a raw deal."
I am old enough to remember when white southern segregationists and their so-called moderate defenders in the north like the recently canonized William F. Buckley, Jr. spoke this way when black people began speaking out more forcefully against state sanctioned racial segregation. I feel a slight measure of sadness when I read that Paul Krugman is expressing similar sentiments.
Clinton and her supporters are delusional
Sorry to use that word again, P6. How about . . . softheaded morons?
If she manages to steal the nomination on the basis that the black guy can't win the white vote while a white woman with the same policy position campaigns against him, I volunteer to lead the charge to vote for a 3rd party.
I understand the concern about McCain Supreme Court nominations, but in 2012, we can add 4 judges or so, and it'll work out. And, I'm all for voting Democrat down ticket. I just don't see another civil and "socially acceptable" way to protest what Clinton preposes to do.
Plus, with her broader coalition of support, she probably won't need black votes anyway. (I'm not sure that statement can be completely sarcastic, though.)
Proves my point about Clinton, the DLC and other
I was not surprised by Hillary Clinton playing the race card to appeal to white working- class voters. I think it's time that black voters along with other progressives and inpendents start a 3rd party and teach both coprorate parties a lesson.Hillary cannot win in November without black support and if white women and working -class crackers don't want to vote for Obama here is what will happen in the next 4 years
1. McCain will nominate 2-3 more Supreme Court Judges (Roe V. Wade and equal pay)
2. An escalation of the Iraq War to Iran
3. Another distratrous helath care plan with private companies
4. No more Union jobs and those jobs going overseas (Hello Wal- Mart Shoppers)
5. A draft because you can't keep recylcing National Guard troops for 3rd or 4th round of duty
6. A permanment fracture of the Democratic Party (white ethnics have not voted for the Democrats since LBJ)
7. A start of purging illegal Mexicans and their children out of the state
Maybe it's just me, but I think Whites and Latinos will vote against their interests as usual, they can't help themselves their hatred for African- Americans is stronger than their common sense.
The Other Side
You know, I like to think I'm pretty good at looking at things from the other side's perspective. But this little bit from Krugman's column has me stumped:
I know there are folks out there who really, really want Clinton to be the nominee. I know there are folks who think she stands a better chance of winning against McCain.
But "raw deal"?
How can anyone argue that she's not had a fair and square shot? I'm serious--can anybody explain that remark?
"How can anyone argue that
"How can anyone argue that she's not had a fair and square shot? I'm serious--can anybody explain that remark?"
Collective amnesia exacerbated by latent racism and corporate feminism.
One year ago, Hillary Clinton was the presumptive presidential nominee of the Democratic Party and the financial and pundit class of America. She had plenty, plenty money in the bank, a seasoned and confident team, a group of donors with deep pockets and international name recognition. Barack Obama's quest was treated as a joke in some circles and his chances for success were considered in the neighborhood of nil when measured against the vaunted Clinton Team.
One year later, her supporters have forgotten all of this and are now busily revising history and manufacturing victim cards faster than Nabisco can stamp out crackers. Many of them honestly believe that the media gave a black man a free pass to the White House when there is no objective evidence to support their claims. Or, if they are corporate feminists, they believe that sexism is more powerful than racism in American electoral politics despite the fact that since the end of Reconstruction only three blacks have been elected to the U.S. Senate and only two have been elected governors. The fact that nearly three dozen white women have been elected as senators and governors cuts no ice with them. They want what they want when they want it. The truth, history and reality be damned as far as they are concerned.
So they will chew on this story about the unfair way their champion was treated and how she was betrayed by the ungrateful naygurs for who she and her husband have done so much for in their political careers. In truth, these folks are simply spoiled sore losers.
pt, you always crack me up
It's amazing, the non-rationalization of Hillpatine's supporters. I 'm thinking about my post about this campaign. But, they have lost their mind. They have no rational reason to hate Obama. he won FAIR AND SQUARE.
no1kstate: Delusional works
no1kstate:
Delusional works this time.
newsoulus:
I really think I was among the first to make the ABC declaration, so I'm not surprised either. And if you want another warning, watch out for the Blue Dog Democrats too. Basically, Southern politicians, no matter what party, are going to be a problem because they play to Southern constituencies.
A clear contradiction
Last month Hillary Clinton said this: "The most pervasive form of discrimination in the world, no matter what the ethnicity, the race, the religion of the people who live in any society is discrimination against women." However now, she has perhaps admitted that racism is worse than sexism. How? She is implying that Obama can't win because of his race, so apparently sexism will have no impact on her at all in getting these white votes. Yet we are to still believe that sexism, not racism is worse.
"The most pervasive form of
Fortunately for her, this is the USofA, not the whole world. Not that I'm into the "Most Persecuted Minority" sweepstakes.