I'm fixing to lose some traffic here.
For the next week there will be no posts supporting Barack Obama's campaign. Nothing on the Presidential campaign. Maybe I'll jack McCain once or twice if something juicy enough pops up. No pro-Obama posts, though. It's because of this, and I have addressed similar issues here in the past:
Speaking Sunday at a march commemorating 1965's Voting Rights Act, Senator Barack Obama put his rhetorical finger on an issue that is about race but also transcends race.
The Illinois Democrat and presidential candidate called on parents to instill "a sense in our young children that there is nothing to be ashamed about in educational achievement; I don't know who taught them that reading and writing and conjugating your verbs was something white."
In return, I offer the following.
'AS SOON AS certain topics are raised," George Orwell once wrote, "the concrete melts into the abstract and no one seems able to think of turns of speech that are not hackneyed: Prose consists less and less of words chosen for the sake of their meaning, and more and more of phrases tacked together like the sections of a prefabricated henhouse."
I swear to GAWD, I am sick and tired of that stale ass line. The response I deleted was around 25% cuss words.
My position has not changed. This is an American problem, not a Black problem. Casting it as a Black problem is not just incorrect, but being incorrect, any "solution" you come up with will also be incorrect.
You want to do stuff to improve Black folks' condition, talk up taking control, entrepreneurship, all the crap rhetoric I sense is coming our way, you can do that without casting us as some different order of being. What you need to do is compare white folks now to Black folks when our unemployment rate was 5.5%.
Wait, how long has it been since our unemployment rate was that low? I don't remember...
And you're lucky I couldn't find the post directly on the topic that I was looking for (comment thread, actually...MUCH tougher to track down a year later). But you can read the comments on the linked post, and you can check out this poll.

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P6, you will not lose me.
P6, you will not lose me. And, more importantly, I completely agree with your decision and the reasons why. Devowel anybody who complains!!
Yeah, 6. I'll be here.
Yeah, 6. I'll be here.
Much ado...
...about nothing.
I initially posted this at
I initially posted this at Jack and Jill Politics but I posted it here on another thread titled "We Yield The Floor To Lester Spence." I am posting it again here because...well because I am still ticked-off. Obama may have unknowingly hit his generational divide because I know a lot of older brothers like me who supported his campaign. We are tired, damn tired, of hearing this type of crap from younger black men who should know better.
"I have a confession to make: I am angry to the point of nearly shaking after reading a news story earlier about Barack Obama making a speech in a Chicago church assailing black men who are absent from their children's lives. I am sure that the senator will receive more than his fair share of high fives and praise for having addressed this topic in what will be described over and over again as a "honest, forthright manner."
"Black folks will be told once again that this is a discussion that we need to have and Obama will be thanked by our friends and our enemies too for having the courage to address this sensitive matter. Fine. Let us now praise famous men and give thanks for what we have already got.
"I am angry not because I disagree with Obama or because he has the facts ass-backwards. I am angry because I would have much preferred to read about a pulpit stump speech from him that praises all the black men who were not absent from the lives of their children. Black men like my father, my paternal and maternal grandfathers, my paternal and maternal great-grandfathers and my paternal and maternal uncles and my great uncles on both sides of my family. Men who got up everyday in good and bad health and did whatever they needed to do to look after families.
"My own father has been dead for four years and there is not a day that goes by that my sisters and I do not miss him and the way that he loved and cared for us all of our lives. I regret that Obama and other black men and women did not have fathers who chose to place them in an honored place in their lives. I grew up with girls and boys, now women and men, who had been abandoned by their fathers and that absence has left a wound that never quite heals.
"I wish, however, that Senator Obama had chosen another time and another place to play the role of a Jeremiah. I wish that he had used today to give praise to black men who are not famous and never will be but who did what they could to strengthen the fabric of their communities by loving and caring for their children. Black people, as Albert Murray pointed out, don't suffer from a lack of accomplishment. They suffer from a lack of recognition of their accomplishments. The junior senator from Illinois should keep this fact in mind as he races for the White House.
Mr. Hickman: Feel free to
Mr. Hickman:
Feel free to support Obama all week on your blog.
Disagree
Sorry - consider me one of those who does not agree - or at least understand your issue. I believe both sides are right and do not see why it is has to be such a hot button issue. Resulting in time wasted in arguing about the issue versus discussing solutions. After reading Blacksmythe I already wrote my .02.
http://ilivetoshop.typepad.com/vibrant_life/2008/06/why-is-it-wrong-to-challenge-our-black-men-to-do-better.html
I agree with PTCruiser's point
Although I disagree w/6 in a post that I guess won't be posted - I think PTCruiser makes an excellent point - the positive side of the equation could have been acknowlwedged. But I do think some allowances have to be made that he is not speaking rhetorically - whether you agree with his ideas - he is speaking from personal experience.
As Oprah told white angry feminists - she is just following her truth - and in this case Obama's truth may not be yours.
Freedom
I might feel free not to cover politics at all for the next week (or longer) on my blog. I'm getting sick of it all, quite frankly.
We'll see.
Hey P6, I'll still be here. Been having this debate
over at JJP. Me? I read the entire speech, so I'm cool with it overall. As I said over at JJP, reminds me of his Hampton speech, where, after outlining an entire agenda, the only thing reported was something that was misrepresented - ' quiet riot'.
But, we're cool, and you will continue to be one of the first sites to be clicked on the Favorites list each morning.
Ruth, comments from
Ruth, comments from unregistered users go to moderation immediately. If I don't do that it gets pretty messy around here pretty quickly.
To be more precise than "both sides are right" would make me go into metaphysics, so yeah, I agree.
The problem is, it's always guys in Obama's relative position that expresses one side and guys in my relative position that express the other side. Therefore only one side ever gets any action.
Craig: I might feel free not
Craig:
I hear you. I'm considering filling the gap with techie stuff.
Thanks forgot...
Sorry forgot I had a login initially. thanks for feedback here and my blog.
No problem, Ruth.
No problem, Ruth. Intelligent people that care about Black folk are always welcome.
I' m with you P6. Every
I' m with you P6.
Every since Obama became the presumptive nominee my disappointment level has gone through the roof. Change? Yeah, he sure did change...into the status quo. I'm bored with him and this whole election. I'll keep reading you and the less election-y you are, the better!
When P6 kicked off this
When P6 kicked off this particular thread he referenced a period in the 20th Century when black unemployment was quite low even for unskilled workers and black folks, as a whole, were improving their economic lot. Those times are gone and, sadly, may never return. In any case, it set me to thinking about what black folks accomplished during the period when chattel slavery ended and before the oppressive boot of Jim Crow was placed on their necks. In 1870, for example, a majority of the skilled artisans and craftsmen in this country were black according to a Commerce Department survey.
Today, I was in a local bookstore and saw a newly published book titled The Slaves War - The Civil War in the Words of Former Slaves written by Andrew Ward. I didn't bother to thumb through it. I just picked it up and placed it in front of the cashier and bought it. Thirty minutes later I was on the bus and I removed the book from the bag and opened it.
The page following the book's dedication page contains four quotes all presumably from former slaves. The one that particularly caught my attention was from an Arkansas woman named Minnie Holloman who said, "For twenty-five years after slave times, there ain't no race of people ever traveled as fast as the Negro did."
Does anyone who frequents this spot on the 'net believe that our ancestors knowingly and willfully gave away all that they had accomplished during those twenty-five years? That black carpenters and cabinet makers, for example, just gave up their trades and decided not to work anymore? This is a huge part of the problem I have with folks who seriously argue that the economic and financial status of black folks as a whole is a matter of personal responsibility. In the aftermath of slavery, we took responsibility and prospered as long as we were allowed to do so.
Gender & Jim Crow
Does anyone who frequents this spot on the 'net believe that our ancestors knowingly and willfully gave away all that they had accomplished during those twenty-five years?
See Glenda Elizabeth Gilmore's Gender & Jim Crow. I read it earlier this year. It focuses on North Carolina (mainly the SW of the state) during the period that the gains of the Reconstruction Era were reversed. It's mainly about the struggle of women for the vote, and the way in which White power conflicted with women's suffrage. While the topical focus is really narrow, it's an excellent cross section of how the White supremacists won control and thwarted all other aims of Whites (not to mention African Americans).
RE: Craftsmen; I'm trying to remember which book I read earlier this year about the strategies employed to drive African Americans out of the trades, and I'm coming up with When Affirmative Action was White, by Ira Katznelson. P6 was plugging it for a while (or is still?) in the upper righthand corner of this site).
This thread has gotten me to
This thread has gotten me to thinks as well. I remember, very fondly, the “Million Man March” and the spirit of that event. Farrakhan pointed to some of the same concerns with black men, but there was something profoundly different about how and why it was done, perhaps because he was speaking “to” black men, and not “at or about” us.
Somewhere in that very long speech, he said the following: “But, let me say in truth, you can't point out wrong with malice. You can't point out wrong with hatred. Because, if we point out wrong with bitterness and hatred, then the bitterness and the hatred becomes a barrier between you and the person whom you hope to get right, that they might come into the favor of God.”
Farrakhan also said, “White supremacy has to die in order for humanity to live.”
Too often, in an effort to appease supremacist assumptions about African Americans, many politicians make speeches and pronouncements that are misguided assumptions about who we are and what we need. Now, I am not sure if Obama was has done this, but this debate is on going. What I am sure about is that I am a proud black father of an adopted bi-racial child. I am also a skilled artisans and craftsmen who takes the matter of personal responsibility very seriously.
After living on the negative end of racist assumptions for most of my life, I am hopeful that an Obama will come to realize speeches like the one in question need to be given more in the spirit of the above words by Farrakhan.
I am remembering the song by the Winans: “Lord Lift Us Up Where We Belong”. You have, or will have the bully pulpit now Mr. Obama, so lift us up ….
When Affirmative Action was White
It's in rotation.
The process to drive African
The process to drive African Americans from or prevent them becoming members of trade and craft unions began during the latter third of the 19th Century during the great wave of northern European immigration. Traditional labor history almost always cites the role that blacks played as strikebreakers as a justification for these practices but fails to address the obvious fact that blacks were not employed in those industries that were being struck. As for the craft unions, black tradesmen were prevented from joining these unions as a matter of stated policy. Many of the constitutions of these unions specifically denied blacks the opportunity to join. See, for example, my memoir "How My Father Grew Up" in the Threepenny Review, Spring 1995.
PT I am not able to bring up
PT
I am not able to bring up your link when I click on it. Any suggestions?
ubstu34 - P6 is changing the
ubstu34 -
P6 is changing the editor settings so I can't fix the link. I'll try later.
Just drop it as text. Until
Just drop it as text. Until I get this Mac thing fixed I'll linkify such.